Chest Tube Placement for Possible Hemothorax
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A hemothorax is a collection of blood within the pleural cavity. Blood can accumulate within this space as a sequelae of chest trauma (penetrating or blunt), iatrogenic injury (e.g., vascular access injuries), or spontaneously (e.g., due to malignancy). To treat the condition, a chest tube is inserted into the thoracic cavity on the affected side of the body (“tube thoracostomy”). In addition to evacuating blood from the pleural cavity, a chest tube can also be used to treat pneumothorax (air in the pleural space) and pleural effusion (e.g., empyema or chylothorax), and to insert medications into the pleural space. Depending on the specific pathology, a tube or catheter may be utilized.
Pleural diseases; hemorrhage; chest tubes; chest tube placement; thoracic injuries.
A hemothorax is a collection of fluid within the pleural space with hematocrit >50% of peripheral blood.1, 2 The chest presents a large potential space for bleeding, which may arise from diaphragmatic, mediastinal, pulmonary, pleural, chest wall, and abdominal injuries. In acute presentations of hemothorax, there are significant physiologic consequences.3 Cardiac output decreases as a result of reduced preload secondary to hypovolemia and left ventricular dysfunction. Blood in the pleural space decreases the functional vital capacity of the lung by creating alveolar hypoventilation, V/Q mismatch, and anatomic shunting. In massive hemothoraces (defined as >1500 mL of blood evacuated after closed tube thoracostomy, >200 mL of drainage per hour, or need for continuous transfusion to maintain hemodynamic stability), these cardiopulmonary mechanisms may result in tension physiology, resulting in hemodynamic instability, cardiovascular collapse, and eventually death if not managed correctly.4 The volume of hemothorax required for manifestation of tension physiology, however, depends on individual patient characteristics.5, 6
The three main etiologies of hemothorax include traumatic, iatrogenic, and spontaneous.7 Traumatic hemothoraces result from blunt or penetrating injury to the chest. Iatrogenic injury may result from cardiac surgery, placement of central venous catheters, or other cardiothoracic procedures. Spontaneous hemothoraces are commonly caused by rupture of pleural adhesions, primary neoplasms, and pleural metastases.1
There are limited data describing the relative frequencies of each etiology, but traumatic hemothoraces are by far the most common.1 A study in adults estimated the incidence of each type of hemothorax: blunt trauma 73.3%, iatrogenic 25.0%, and spontaneous 1.7%.8 An estimated 300,000 hemothoraces occur annually in the United States,9 resulting in 16,000–30,000 deaths per year.7, 10 Chest injury occurs in approximately 60% of polytrauma patients; thus, clinicians should suspect hemothorax in any patient arriving at the emergency department following blunt or penetrating chest trauma.5
The identification of hemothoraces and decision to intervene relies upon clinical presentation and radiologic evidence. Chest radiography (CXR) remains the initial modality for rapid evaluation of thoracic injury. A main advantage of CXR is that it can be performed quickly and portably; however, there are other important considerations and limitations. Patients should be in an upright position during imaging, as supine positioning distributes blood across the height of the chest and may inadvertently conceal approximately 1000 mL of blood.7 There must be at least 300 mL of blood to blunt the costophrenic angle and detect the hemothorax on CXR. Finally, estimation of hemothorax volume with CXR depends on patient positioning and clinician experience. Computed tomography (CT) scan of the chest provides greater resolution and identification of smaller fluid collections, as well as more accurate volume calculation.5 Ultrasonography performed and interpreted by clinicians at the bedside (in a similar manner to focused assessment with sonography for trauma, or FAST exam) has also been shown to be effective in identifying hemothorax and generally provides results more quickly than CT.5, 11
Tube thoracostomy is the first-line treatment for most hemothoraces.5, 9, 12 Once a hemothorax >300 mL has been identified on imaging, or if there is a high index of suspicion from physical exam findings (such as tracheal deviation, absent breath sounds, or serious penetrating injuries with associated hemodynamic instability), chest tube placement is used to evacuate the blood from the chest and restore normal cardiopulmonary physiology.5, 7 Prompt evacuation of the hemothorax with proper tube placement prevents coagulation and adhesion to the lung and pleura (fibrothorax)1 and is associated with decreased risk of empyema, pneumonia, fibrothorax and retained hemothorax.2, 13, 14
A thorough history from the patient, witnesses, and EMS helps to stratify the risk of intrathoracic injury. Important history components include chest pain, dyspnea, mechanism of injury (fall, direction, and speed), drug/alcohol use, comorbidities, surgical history, and anticoagulation/antiplatelet therapies. Motor vehicle crash >35 mph, fall from >15 feet, pedestrian ejection >10 feet, and trauma with depressed level of consciousness are mechanisms predictive of significant thoracic injury.4, 15
A complete physical examination of the patient is also crucial. Clinical findings of hemothorax are broad and may overlap with signs and symptoms of pneumothorax. Often, the degree of symptomatology is dependent upon the volume of blood within the chest. Manifestations of hemothorax include respiratory distress, tachypnea, decreased or absent breath sounds, dullness to chest wall percussion, chest wall asymmetry, tracheal deviation, hypoxia, narrow pulse pressure, and hypotension. Clinicians should inspect the chest wall for abrasions, penetrating injury, paradoxical motion ("flail chest”), ecchymosis, chest wall deformities, crepitus, and point tenderness. Distended neck veins are concerning for hemothorax, pneumothorax, and/or pericardial tamponade but may be absent in the setting of hypovolemia or hemorrhagic shock. Increased respiratory rate, effort, and use of accessory muscles may be signs of impending respiratory failure.4
The following physical findings should prompt a high clinical suspicion for hemothorax:
Exam Finding | Potential Conditions |
Distended neck veins | Pericardial tamponade, tension hemothorax or pneumothorax, cardiogenic failure, air embolism |
"Seat belt sign" | Deceleration or vascular injury; chest wall contusion/abrasion |
Paradoxical chest wall movement | Flail chest |
Facial/neck swelling or cyanosis | Superior mediastinum injury with occlusion or compression of superior vena cava |
Subcutaneous emphysema | Torn bronchus or lung parenchyma laceration |
Scaphoid abdomen | Diaphragmatic injury with herniation of abdominal content into the chest |
Excessive abdominal movement with breathing | Chest wall injury |
Table 1. Physical exam findings and potential injuries in patients with thoracoabdominal trauma. Adapted from Gomez 2020.
While CXR is traditionally used for initial evaluation in the emergency department, it has limitations, including the need for upright patient positioning for optimal results, poor detection of small hemothoraces (<300-500 mL), limited quantification of hemothorax size, and limited ability to differentiate between hemothorax and other thoracic pathologies.5, 9 Cross-sectional imaging of the chest with a CT scan may help discern between pulmonary contusion, pneumonia, pleural effusion, retained hemothorax, and empyema.9
Bedside ultrasound has emerged as an increasingly popular method for identifying hemothorax. Multiple studies have shown that ultrasound can detect hemothoraces with high sensitivity (67–90%) and specificity (99%), as well as accurately quantify their size.11, 15, 16 Ultrasound is more sensitive than CXR, but less sensitive than chest CT and may miss certain mediastinal injuries.16, 17 Additionally, its accuracy is limited by the experience of the operator.16
Hemothorax is most commonly a complication of blunt or penetrating thoracic trauma.1, 4, 5, 7 Hemothorax, hemopneumothorax, and pneumothorax are the most common complications of either penetrating or blunt thoracic trauma, with a frequency ranging from 10–37%.7 Motor vehicle crashes cause 70% of blunt thoracic trauma,10, 18 and overall mortality from hemothorax ranges from 9.4–42.3%.7, 19 Gunshot wounds and stab injuries are the primary etiologies of penetrating thoracic trauma and have a much greater mortality with up to more than 90% of patients dying in the field.20
Rib fractures are a major risk factor associated with the acute and delayed development of hemothorax.7 Patients with hemothoraces (among other complications, like flail chest) associated with five or more rib fractures are 2.5 times more likely to die than those with fewer than five rib fractures.21 Despite this association, rib fixation remains incompletely studied and controversial.7
Number of Rib Fractures | Patients with Hemothorax (%) |
1–2 | 17.5% |
3–4 | 32.2% |
5–6 | 48.6% |
>7 | 68.4% |
Table 2. The relationships between the number of rib fractures and hemothorax in patients with thoracic trauma from Frank Cheau-Feng Lin et al.22
There are four general options for management of hemothorax: expectant monitoring, tube thoracostomy, video-assisted thoracic surgery (VATS), and thoracotomy.7 Hemothoraces disrupt the normal functions of the cardiopulmonary system: ventilation, gas exchange, and perfusion. The goal of treatment is to promptly decompress the chest by evacuating blood from the pleural space to restore normal cardiopulmonary physiology. Furthermore, expeditious and complete evacuation of hemothoraces reduces the risk of complications associated with retained hemothorax.
International practice management guidelines suggest that all hemothoraces, regardless of size, should be considered for tube thoracostomy, which is the first-line treatment for drainage.5,23 Western Trauma Guidelines recommend in patients with hemodynamic or physiological abnormality attributable to a hemothorax, clinicians should perform finger thoracostomy and standard chest decompression with 28 Fr chest tube.12 Pleural lavage with lavage volume of at least 1000 mL may also be considered, especially in patients with penetrating injuries as it may decrease the need for secondary intervention (e.g., VATS) and decrease hospital length of stay.24,25 Hemodynamically and physiologically stable patients with hemothorax estimated to be >300–500 mL should undergo tube thoracostomy with 14 Fr to 28 Fr chest tubes and pleural lavage.12
Expectant monitoring with repeat imaging (CXR) within 24 hours and careful observation may be performed in patients with hemothoraces estimated to be <300–500 mL.12,26–28 At our institution, repeat imaging is typically performed after 6 hours. Serial imaging and careful observation should monitor for not only changes in hemothorax volume, but also changes in clinical presentation. Clinical status should be the principal factor in decision-making. These small hemothoraces typically resorb over several weeks.3
After placement of the chest tube, the effectiveness of drainage should be evaluated with repeat CXR. Persistent CXR abnormality after tube thoracostomy warrants additional CT imaging,23 and if there is a retained hemothorax shown on CT to be >300–500 mL, VATS should be done within 72 hours.12 It is important to note that VATS, not a second chest tube, is the recommended treatment for persistent retained hemothorax.12,23 Inadequate drainage that develops after 72 hours may also be treated with thrombolytics in appropriate patients.12
While approximately 85% of hemothoraces can be managed with a closed tube thoracostomy, open decompression with thoracotomy is sometimes required for massive hemothorax.29 Criteria for massive hemothorax prompting thoracotomy are traditionally defined as an initial output of more than 1,500 mL of blood following tube thoracostomy, drainage of more than 200 mL per hour for 4 hours, or the requirement of persistent blood transfusion to maintain hemodynamic stability.1,5,6,20,23 However, it is critical to note that rather than absolute volume of initial or ongoing chest-tube output, the primary indicator for surgical intervention must be the physiologic parameters and overall condition of the patient.23
Up to 25% of patients who undergo tube thoracostomy develop infectious complications,13 and the development of empyema or other infectious complications is multifactorial. Risk factors for infectious complications include mechanism of injury (blunt injury vs. direct contamination by penetrating injury), patient comorbidities (e.g., immunocompromised), operative setting (e.g., emergency department vs. ICU vs. operating room), and other patient injuries.29 There is limited evidence available, and the role of prophylactic antibiotics in tube thoracostomy is controversial.29
There are some patients who should not initially undergo tube thoracostomy for hemothorax. Extensively destroyed chest wall/lung or impaled objects may warrant immediate operative intervention. Additionally, penetrating wounds with trajectories towards the heart or great vessels or suspicious of a great vessel injury demand surgical exploration of the chest.6
This video depicts a case of a 57-year-old female without significant medical history presenting to the Emergency Department complaining of pain with inspiration and right rib pain, four days after slipping on ice and falling on her right side while trying to cross the street. CXR performed in the trauma bay was concerning for right hemothorax, and the team elected to perform tube thoracostomy.
Hemothorax is a common consequence of thoracic trauma.5 Upright CXR is traditionally used for initial identification of hemothoraces but is limited by patient positioning and sensitivity. CT is the most sensitive, and use of ultrasonography is increasingly common. Ultrasound and CT allow for size estimation of the hemothorax, while CXR does not.1,5,11 Patient physiology and hemodynamics must remain at the forefront of clinical decision-making in the management of hemothorax, rather than strict adherence to quantitative guidelines on estimated hemothorax size or chest drainage.5,6,23,27,28 Though small hemothoraces (<300–500 mL) may be managed with expectant monitoring,12 85% are managed successfully with tube thoracostomy. The remaining 10–15% are massive hemothoraces that require surgical intervention.23,29
The use of VATS and its relationship to tube thoracostomy in the management of hemothorax is an area of active investigation.23 VATS is the first-line treatment for retained hemothorax after chest tube placement,12,23 and several studies have indicated it may be safe to proceed directly to VATS for identification of intrathoracic injuries before chest tube placement in stable patients.30,31 It is unknown, however, if use of VATS leads to shorter hospitalizations or fewer complications than tube thoracostomy alone, and future work is needed to more clearly identify the role of VATS in the treatment of acute and retained hemothorax.23
Despite the high prevalence of chest tube placement, clinical outcomes data for the procedure are heterogenous and limited, relying heavily on retrospective studies at individual centers.6 Future work investigating unanswered questions surrounding tube thoracostomy for hemothorax and retained hemothorax, including fibrinolytics, when to “watch and wait,” use of VATS, and ideal antibiotic prophylaxis should be conducted using prospective, multicenter, and randomized trials.6,23,29
- Chest Tube Insertion Tray - Bioseal32.
Nothing to disclose.
The patient referred to in this video article has given their informed consent to be filmed and is aware that information and images will be published online.
We would like to thank our patients, trainees, and faculty at the University of Chicago Medical Center.
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Cite this article
Abigail Clarkson-During, MD, Jennifer Cone, MD, Ashley Suah, MD. Chest tube placement for possible hemothorax. J Med Insight. 2024;2024(299.3). https://doi.org/10.24296/jomi/299.3Procedure Outline
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- Draping
- Marking
- Local Anesthetic
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CHAPTER 1
Okay, so first thing you want to do is make sure that the patient is appropriately positioned. So you have her right arm up in extension so that hopefully the rib spaces are nice and wide for you. You want to make sure that her arm is secured so that if it's you by yourself you don't have to worry about her arm coming down. Especially, you know, while you're doing your procedure or if she's uncomfortable or anything like that. And then after she's appropriately positioned then you want to prep your field out so that you're ready to go. The kit usually includes a prep as well, but I usually just prep beforehand so that I know everything that I want to be in the field is already done. And then for the drape, I usually cut a little bit of a window for the nipple since often we use the nipple as a landmark, especially in trauma where you just want to make sure you're in the right area. So for her, her breasts aren't like super pendulous so we can use her nipple as a landmark. Obviously like if the nipple was all the way down here, we're not going to use the nipple. So I would aim for lateral to the nipple, and then you want to be in like your safety triangle so in this space bordered by your pec, your lat, and your axilla. So I - felt a little bit - we'll have to make a, you know, skin incision and kind of divide down, but I think if we go about here... Sorry! We should be okay. So we need to just make sure and numb her up well and then we can also use the Ketamine after we've used our lidocaine.
So with the drape I would cut a hole or like a little extension so that when the drape goes on you can see the nipples as a landmark and then after we're draped, we can start our local. So you can go ahead and use the scissors to cut a little window. Usually if it opens this way, then you want to cut the extension like here. Perfect, and then I just kind of like rip this off. So then when you take off your sticky, make sure this is like where the nipple is and then everything else is, you know, this safety triangle where we're going to put the tube in. Sticky application. You're going to feel the drape over you, okay ma'am? Okay. Drape over you, okay ma'am? Great, perfect. So I think we can probably even come a little bit towards us with the drape because our space is a little bit more - Yeah, great. So maybe even... So, like so. Because we're going to aim for about this spot right here, okay? See - that the ribs are sensitive, so - okay.
So just since she has a little bit of extra soft tissue there, you can kind of mark out where you're planning to put your incision. That way we don't get lost. Okay.
So first thing is you want to make sure she's comfortable, we gave her little bit of Fentanyl to kind of relax her. We have Versed ready for when we actually do like the - when we get into the pleural cavity, but first we can start by numbing. So remember to raise your wheal first along where you're going to make your skin incision. Okay. And that needle may not be long enough, actually. So this is the needle that we use here. See how nice and long this is so we can actually get into the chest with this. Okay ma'am, you're going to feel a poke and a sting, okay? Poke. Sting. Okay. Remember to save like most of it for actually the chest - pleural space. Okay, another poke. So if you can here, you can give her a little time too, for the medicine to kind of kick in. But you want to be like perpendicular to the chest, You want to try and see if you can - when you go in, find the rib. Poke. And then you want to be on the top of the rib, not under the rib, right? Because our neurovascular bundle is on the bottom, so once you identify a rib, you want to see if you can get in on top of it and then enter the pleural cavity if possible and see if you can aspirate either air or blood. I think there's air, not blood. And if you can't, that's okay. You do have air? I have some air in the vault, but... If you're in the chest cavity and you aspirate, air should fill and you shouldn't get suction back. Okay. No. Sometimes it can be a little tough when patients are deep. Okay, I don't have air. And you can just - may I take a feel just to see how deep you are here? Another poke here, okay? So I'm right on the rib. Just push, just feel that. It's a very light - see how that's hard right there? So then when you're on the rib, you angle just a little bit, so you kind of walk it up the rib to where now - now I think I'm in the chest now. And so I can pull air. And I'm going to inject a bunch of local right here. Because this is where she'll have, like, the most tenderness. So I'm putting it all like right outside of the chest wall where we're going to come through. So that way, hopefully she'll be as comfortable as possible. And then usually I will ask for more local. That way if we need it, we have it. But we can see how we do, and then you know we have the Ketamine also.
CHAPTER 2
Okay, so next you can make your incision, and I would recommend you probably extend this maybe by another centimeter. So we have like a 3-cm incision, we can always close it, but we don't want to be struggling. And she's a little deep, so... Okay. And remember, it's a stab and then pulling in the direction of the blade. Is that feeling sharp? Yes, it is. Okay, one second. Should I stop and numb her some more? Yeah, just stop for a second. May we get a little bit more local, please? Yes. Okay, I think it's because - of that extension of the incision. So I'm just going to give a little bit more here. I'm going to give you a little bit more numbing medicine, okay? A little poke here. Okay. All right, so you can test too, by poking her and making sure it's more dull than sharp. Okay, let us - perfect, thank you. Let us know if you have any more pain, okay? Sure will. You're doing great. So remember, it's a stab and then pull up, and as you pull up... So kind of like this. Like a - let me show you. So it's - in and then up, like that. Okay, yeah, I would extend a little bit - like a little bit farther down. Okay, good. Perfect. All right, so protect your knife. And then since we're on the right side we don't have to really worry so much about the heart.
CHAPTER 3
So you can use your hemostat and spread. And remember you want big spreads in the same space. Doing okay? Yes. Okay. Okay, and then you should be feeling - when you get down to the rib. Let me take a feel. So you can take that out for when we take a feel. Good, so you're almost there. Maybe give her the Ketamine. 30, right? Yep. So we can feel - I think you're spreading a little posterior, but you want this area pretty open. But you're almost there, you can feel it really well. See that there's like a little pocket there. So try and go to like, the deepest spot where you already have a pocket and spread wide in there. Your spreads are really tiny. Yeah. And see she's doing okay, right? The numbing is probably working really well. You doing okay? Yes. Great. All right, we're going to give you some of that relaxation medicine, okay? We're almost done with the procedure. I'm on the rib. Great, let me take a feel. Good. So again, make sure you're right over it. I think if you - I think it'll pop right in, but let's get our tube set up. And then remember what we're going to do is once you're in with this, you want to make sure you spread nice and wide so you don't lose your spot and then you can pass me the large clamp, and I'll put it on your tube for you, and - you want to make sure when - I'm just going to demonstrate real quick. So when you go in, you want to go in over the rib, and then once you're in, then you want to rotate so that your tube goes against the chest wall. So once you're in, don't keep feeding it in because it may get caught in like, a fissure or something. So then you're in and then you want to twist it and rotate it so that it will go to the apex and also like against the chest wall. And then we have small fingers so sometimes once it's in in good position, it should slide pretty easily. But you can also confirm with another finger once it's in. Okay. Okay? And then make sure you tell the patient - a lot of pressure, And you know, we have her on the monitor, she has the Ketamine. Finding my hole. Okay. So if you just give a lot of push right here, you should pop in. So pop in with the instrument closed and then once you're in, then you spread. Okay, some pressure. I felt the pop. Okay, now spread really wide, two hands. Now you're in. See there's all that fluid that's coming out. Great. So it's all clear, so we'll make sure and dictate that in our report. And spread really wide so that when you come off your instrument you don't lose that spot. Okay. Spreading, spreading. My finger's in the hole. Okay. Do you feel like it's a good-sized hole, we won't lose the spot? I think it's a good-sized hole. Okay, let me take a little feel. We can take this out real quick. I agree, it's a good-sized hole, you can feel her lung.
CHAPTER 4
So - I think we should be able to get this in well. So, this is... Okay, right here? Okay. So try not to, you know, once you know where your spot is, go in right on top of the rib, once you're in, then you just rotate and guide it along the chest wall and superiorly. So it's kind of a posterior/superior tube. And if you need help, I can help you too. Okay. Okay. I feel like I have resistance in advancing. Okay. Okay. Would you mind feeling for me? Sure. Okay. Let me - I can put it in, and then I'll let you... Okay. So I just spread with my fingers a bit. So - so then... May I feel where you are? Mm hmm, one second. Okay, so it's in now. So you're right over the ribs, so rotate. Okay. Rotate. And then once you've advanced just a little bit, then take your clamp off. And then you should rotate the tube, it should slide fairly easily. To 20? And I usually put it at, actually like 14. We can always pull it back, but - so this is actually more like 16. And then you can ask the nurse to help pass you the end of the Pleur-evac. May we have that Pleur-evac, please? Yes. And then you want to connect your tube. And once you're connected, then you can take this other clamp off. Okay. Good, so take this off. Good, now we're getting nice, clear fluid which matches with what we saw on the scan.
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So now you want to secure your tube. We'll do an interrupted stitch and then we'll do our U-stitch. And be careful not to stick yourself. Sometimes I use one of the clamps as like a DeBakey. And you always want to make sure you don't nick the tube also. So you can use... Oops, sorry. Is the needle okay? The needle's okay. So use the - yeah, kind of as a DeBakey. It's a little non-conventional, but I just don't want you to stick yourself. Just going to pull this out. You can take it in two. Yeah, so this is nice, flush along the thoracic wall. It's not in - doesn't feel like it's in a fissure, but we'll get our x-ray in a second just to see. And then leave yourself enough length so we can do the U-stitch too. Okay, so for the U-stitch. So we'll go - And then out. I do fairly deep bites because I don't want this tube to go anywhere. And then you come back the same manner but it's a U, so... And I always cut off my needle so we don't worry about that when we're securing the tube. You throw one throw, kind of cinch that down around the tube, and then that's it because if you throw another one then it's locked in. Then you can wrap around your tube here like a gladiator sandal, but see how it's cinched down nicely already, so it's kind of air-tight there? Then we're done. So obviously, we'll clean off her chest, secure our tube, and we'll get our a chest x-ray and make sure we have…
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Maybe one up here, and then we'll do one to secure the tube. And then you can make you're little "mesentery". Just right over the middle? Like on the actual tube and then tape the tube to her skin so you kind of pinch it a little bit. Okay. That way the tube isn't, you know, dangling around. You can probably put a little bit more because that can be fairly uncomfortable, so... Under? Or Over? Yeah, or a little bit lower, so like it stays on her skin there.
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Take a deep breath in. Hold it. Breathe.